The closest I ever came to a religious experience was listening to Ivan Illich. it or not). I devoured both Medical Nemesis and Limits to Medicine,† and now . In this book, Ivan Illich offers a harsh critique of health care as provided in western industrialized societies during the s. However, he did. This is the opening statement and basic contention of Ivan Illich’s searing social critique. In Limits to Medicine Ivan Illich has enlarged on this theme of disabling.

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It would be organised around the needs of people to live meaningful lives, and not around production and consumption for its own sake.

These efforts are concentrated in the last few months of life in a heroic battle to defy the inevitable http: It shatters not only my belief in medicine as a clinical phenomenon, but also as social and cultural phenomena. While it may lack compassion and seem formulaic, all treatments and in fact all decisions, in the absence of certainty are based on balancing probabilities.

Modern discussion about politics, the future, culture, etc. He argues for institutions that balance the possibilities for autonomous action with that of managed dependence focused on industrial output.

Cultural iatrogenesis also manifests when professionally organized medicine supplants community responses to health problems people in that community experience: To say that psychiatric drugs do not work by targeting an underlying brain abnormality is not to say that there is no such abnormality present in mental disorders.

The Best Books of I was often reading sentences twice and I have read the book before! Cultural iatrogenesis occurs when the traditional cultural means of managing sickness, suffering and lmiits and the cultural meaning of these experiences are lost; replaced by values liimts by medical enterprise and treated as malfunctions.

Illich said virtually everything about today’s health care “crisis. I recall Susan Sontag criticised him for personal hypocrisy, having accepted advanced medicine facing cancer, but, well, what would you do!? Dr Skeptic 20 January at The whole biology of the human being was laid before us, including the cadaver of some poor soul who had donated their body to medical science. You are commenting using your WordPress. Illich presents a powerful case to show the wider context and grander scale of the problem.


Those against psychiatry needs to focus on this financial area if they are to be really effective. Illich compares medicine to religion.

I am glad you think that psychiatrists are fully aware of the risks and benefits of antipsychotics, and discuss these with their patients. These need to be nourished, educated and developed once more, so we can move into a future of less reliance on experts and professionals who cannot know what is best for us when times get tough, but only in an unsustainable situation of perpetual economic growth and expansion.

He begins his book with this sentence: Dispatched from the UK in 2 business days When will my order arrive? Sep 16, Chrisl illidh it really liked it Shelves: This is the Bible of books about health care. Oct 03, Mike Beranek rated it it was amazing. Books by Ivan Illich. I wasn’t much impressed by Medical Nemesis, finding its prose rather difficult and its reliance on footnotes a very substantial proportion of the text too great.

Dear Fiona, Thank you for your comments. The true miracle of modern medicine is diabolical.

Limits to Medicine : Medical Nemesis – The Expropriation of Health

The bullshit marketing to lure in more illuch consumption’ illcih people don’t need – until we tell them they do. The wishful thinking that medicine has come to embody obscures the limitations of the human condition, illiich people less aware of their own nature.

Thus, in social iatrogenesis, the social arrangements of health care are the pathogens. I do not think it is useful to encourage the view that drugs are more helpful than the evidence suggests they are. Power, Money and Sex James Robertson. Description “The medical establishment has become a major threat to health. There was also something disconcerting for me about the relentless study of the facts of the human body.

In this setting ivwn function a million times more efficiently because we have natural capabilities in our brain for sensing illness and problems in our lives. Unfortunately, and somewhat surprisingly, I find Foucault, the Frenchman, easier to grasp. Setelah ‘Matinya Gender’ dan ‘Deschooling Society’, saya terus mencari karya Illich yang lain, dan tak menyangka akan menemukan satu lagi buku bagus yang menjelaskan pada saya bagaimana sejatinya unsur-unsur di dunia serba modern ini berjalan.


Doctors have a vested interest in promoting disease and healthcare consumption. These are salutory enterprises. The Electronic Battlefield Paul Dickson. But good reading for people in medical professions. Ilych can easily be dismissed as a radical, a curmudgeon, or a blowhard by people who don’t want to hear his sharp and penetrating critiques of two core social institutions–medicine and education.

Others, the treatment of heart attacks or cancer for example, require a great deal of bodily intrusion, including surgery to remove diseased parts, insertion of devices, and the ingestion of powerful and debilitating drugs like chemotherapy.

At the time, the early nineties, he has a pronounced tumor on his neck for which, I was told, he had received no treatment. Goodreads is the world’s largest site for readers with over 50 million reviews. To see what your friends thought of this book, please sign up.

Limits to Medicine: re-visiting Ivan Illich | Joanna Moncrieff

Healthcare is a ‘right’ and we should get as much of it as we want the second we want it. His message tl the answers to human suffering lie in social connection and cultural meanings, but this is often a message that people do not want to hear. Whilst you appear to be very anti-medication you seem not to have a lot of advice on how to manage these over medicalised normal mental states, how for instance do my family manage my 4 week periods of sleeping 2 hrs per medkcine, relentless decorating and rearranging the house, constant talking, overspending and climbing the banisters over a large drop to paint the ceiling as it never occurs to me that I would injure myself.

Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. Limits to Medicine–Medical Nemesis: Dec 31, Barbara Ab rated it it was amazing.

Many of the most useful, such as vaccination, are relatively simple and can be administered without too much interference. If there are illnesses with biological causes for the rest of the body why would there not be for the brain?